Childhood's End
3:14:40 PM) Damien667: why do we still live in a country and society where comics are not taken seriously, by the majority of the populace? Where I have to call someone stupid, to their face, because they still stand next to the "comics are only for kids" bullshit?
(3:15:03 PM) mendoriryuu: ... the same reason we get the "Cartoons are only for kids"
(3:15:19 PM) mendoriryuu: even though the great classics of american cartoons were NEVER meant for kids
(3:15:54 PM) Damien667: Might I recall Snow White
(3:16:09 PM) Damien667: or perhaps "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips"
(3:16:13 PM) mendoriryuu: something happened between the 40/50s and the 80s where things that were meant for adults became "kids" things
(3:16:30 PM) mendoriryuu: and ive never quite figured out what
(3:17:21 PM) mendoriryuu: i guess the same thing happened between the 19th and 20th century with fairy tails
(3:17:25 PM) mendoriryuu: tales
(3:17:40 PM) Damien667: It makes no damned sense...
(3:17:41 PM) mendoriryuu: ... now that i think
(3:17:55 PM) mendoriryuu: i think it has something to do, each time, with how "childhood" was redefined
(3:18:21 PM) Damien667: Elaborate?
(3:18:34 PM) mendoriryuu: during the 1800s there was a new movement towards actual childhood being defined as something different from being an adult
(3:18:52 PM) mendoriryuu: children were not mini adults, they were something pure and innocent, etc
(3:19:11 PM) mendoriryuu: thus why child labor laws went into place
(3:19:35 PM) mendoriryuu: well... i think something similar hapend again in the late 50s
(3:19:44 PM) mendoriryuu: early 60s, etc
(3:19:59 PM) mendoriryuu: i think children were even further removed from being adults
(3:20:13 PM) mendoriryuu: with the whole suburban movement
(3:20:38 PM) mendoriryuu: children were envisioned as even more immature than they previously had been
(3:20:52 PM) mendoriryuu: thus why teens are still "children"
(3:21:00 PM) mendoriryuu: where earlier they werent
(3:21:20 PM) mendoriryuu: does that make sense?
(3:21:51 PM) mendoriryuu: and i think something similar is happening now... now even in your 20s, youre still not an adult really
(3:22:01 PM) mendoriryuu: not by society at least
(3:22:24 PM) mendoriryuu: the range of childhood is being extended later and later
(3:22:52 PM) Damien667: it does make sense
(3:22:59 PM) Damien667: twittering about it
(3:23:02 PM) mendoriryuu: ^^
(3:23:08 PM) Damien667: Well, think about it
(3:24:22 PM) Damien667: With the advanced pace of information, and the enshrining and rewarding of that innocence with a lack of responsibility, what would we naturally have, as these generations hit their 20's?
(3:24:50 PM) mendoriryuu: exactly
(3:25:05 PM) mendoriryuu: and what will happen when their children hit that age?
(3:25:12 PM) mendoriryuu: will 40 be the new point of adulthood
(3:25:20 PM) mendoriryuu: 50?
(3:25:26 PM) Damien667: Jeezus
(3:25:27 PM) mendoriryuu: and our lives get longer too
(3:25:41 PM) mendoriryuu: ... now 80 and 90 are becoming normal
(3:25:47 PM) mendoriryuu: soon 100, 110
(3:26:07 PM) mendoriryuu: every decade we live longer... is another decade we dont have to grow up sooner
(3:27:00 PM) Damien667: They now have the ability to analyze the situation, to think of a more "innocent" and less responsible state and force themselves into it.
(3:27:04 PM) Damien667: Hipsters.
(3:27:46 PM) mendoriryuu: yup
(3:27:58 PM) Damien667: And there's your bedtime story, for the evening. Let's see how many followers it loses me.
(3:15:03 PM) mendoriryuu: ... the same reason we get the "Cartoons are only for kids"
(3:15:19 PM) mendoriryuu: even though the great classics of american cartoons were NEVER meant for kids
(3:15:54 PM) Damien667: Might I recall Snow White
(3:16:09 PM) Damien667: or perhaps "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips"
(3:16:13 PM) mendoriryuu: something happened between the 40/50s and the 80s where things that were meant for adults became "kids" things
(3:16:30 PM) mendoriryuu: and ive never quite figured out what
(3:17:21 PM) mendoriryuu: i guess the same thing happened between the 19th and 20th century with fairy tails
(3:17:25 PM) mendoriryuu: tales
(3:17:40 PM) Damien667: It makes no damned sense...
(3:17:41 PM) mendoriryuu: ... now that i think
(3:17:55 PM) mendoriryuu: i think it has something to do, each time, with how "childhood" was redefined
(3:18:21 PM) Damien667: Elaborate?
(3:18:34 PM) mendoriryuu: during the 1800s there was a new movement towards actual childhood being defined as something different from being an adult
(3:18:52 PM) mendoriryuu: children were not mini adults, they were something pure and innocent, etc
(3:19:11 PM) mendoriryuu: thus why child labor laws went into place
(3:19:35 PM) mendoriryuu: well... i think something similar hapend again in the late 50s
(3:19:44 PM) mendoriryuu: early 60s, etc
(3:19:59 PM) mendoriryuu: i think children were even further removed from being adults
(3:20:13 PM) mendoriryuu: with the whole suburban movement
(3:20:38 PM) mendoriryuu: children were envisioned as even more immature than they previously had been
(3:20:52 PM) mendoriryuu: thus why teens are still "children"
(3:21:00 PM) mendoriryuu: where earlier they werent
(3:21:20 PM) mendoriryuu: does that make sense?
(3:21:51 PM) mendoriryuu: and i think something similar is happening now... now even in your 20s, youre still not an adult really
(3:22:01 PM) mendoriryuu: not by society at least
(3:22:24 PM) mendoriryuu: the range of childhood is being extended later and later
(3:22:52 PM) Damien667: it does make sense
(3:22:59 PM) Damien667: twittering about it
(3:23:02 PM) mendoriryuu: ^^
(3:23:08 PM) Damien667: Well, think about it
(3:24:22 PM) Damien667: With the advanced pace of information, and the enshrining and rewarding of that innocence with a lack of responsibility, what would we naturally have, as these generations hit their 20's?
(3:24:50 PM) mendoriryuu: exactly
(3:25:05 PM) mendoriryuu: and what will happen when their children hit that age?
(3:25:12 PM) mendoriryuu: will 40 be the new point of adulthood
(3:25:20 PM) mendoriryuu: 50?
(3:25:26 PM) Damien667: Jeezus
(3:25:27 PM) mendoriryuu: and our lives get longer too
(3:25:41 PM) mendoriryuu: ... now 80 and 90 are becoming normal
(3:25:47 PM) mendoriryuu: soon 100, 110
(3:26:07 PM) mendoriryuu: every decade we live longer... is another decade we dont have to grow up sooner
(3:27:00 PM) Damien667: They now have the ability to analyze the situation, to think of a more "innocent" and less responsible state and force themselves into it.
(3:27:04 PM) Damien667: Hipsters.
(3:27:46 PM) mendoriryuu: yup
(3:27:58 PM) Damien667: And there's your bedtime story, for the evening. Let's see how many followers it loses me.
Labels: comics, Damien, philosophy, sociology
